A commenter recently asked us a question about how milk fits into the ‘real food’ framework, and whether or not we still drink it. Since you guys are absolutely invaluable when it comes to giving us subjects and ideas to write about, we’re going to talk about milk, too!
So our main question is not whether we should ever drink milk again, but rather three smaller questions:
- How much milk should we drink?
- Is it important to drink skim, 1%, or low-fat milk?
- Is organic milk really that much better for us?
The first thing we noticed is that there are no solid, set-in-stone answers to these questions. They’re complicated, and there are a lot of interests at stake here — milk is a big, fundamental food product, one that’s a big part of many people’s lives, and it’s definitely more complicated than just saying a simple yes/no.
How much milk should I drink?
If we look back at our own childhoods, there was no other drink that played as much of a role as milk did. Many parents never put any restrictions on how much of it we could drink, and the idea of a tall, cold, refreshing glass of 2% still has huge appeal for a lot of us.
But after reading some thoughts on the issue, and looking at the nutritional content, we think milk should be considered not an essential drink you can overindulge with (which is often how it’s marketed), but rather something that can be enjoyed in moderation.
The Got Milk? campaigns and various advisory boards have done a pretty fantastic marketing job over the years, and the idea of a tall glass of milk as fundamental for nutrients and calcium is practically ingrained into some of our minds. But it’s still marketing — milk isn’t exactly a miracle drink, and it’s got lots of calories and a not-insigificant quantity of fat.
That brings us to the second question.
Should we stick to skim milk?
We couldn’t really get a clear verdict on this one, so the common sense route is likely your best bet here. If you’re drinking milk in moderation (ie., not treating it like water), say in a coffee or two, then drinking anything between skim and whole milk is not going to make a gigantic difference, and you can pretty safely go with what you enjoy.
If, however, you’re a big-time milk drinker trying to cut down, and you don’t feel it’s going to be an easy thing to reduce the amount of milk you drink, switching to a lower-fat version might be ideal. In the end, milk can slip into that same category as fruit juice, or even pop — we don’t realize how many calories, and how much fat (or sugar, in soda’s case) we’re consuming, because these drinks don’t tend to leave us very full. Milk is better at that, but it still takes a lot of it to feel ‘full’.
Finally — organic milk.
Michael Pollan has plenty of things to say about the contradictions inherent in, say, Wal-Mart selling organic milk. In general, we’d suggest you pick up his book The Omnivore’s Dilemma and read the chapter on Big Organic — it all pretty much applies to milk, too. Let’s just say that if you’re concerned about cows not being treated very well and living in factory-farm/feedlot conditions, organic isn’t necessarily going to help you there. If it’s just antibiotics or hormones that make you nervous, maybe you’ll feel more confident buying organic.
It’s a difficult issue and there’s no clear answer — it depends on your ethics, on what you can find in your area, and on the compromises you’re willing to make, just like so many of our food-buying decisions.
Over To You!
Have you had trouble cutting down on milk? Has it been a part of your life for as long as you can remember? If you’re from North America, there’s a good chance milk is a big part of your diet — let’s talk about it!
I love milk after workouts especial after im done running, and yes im from north america, not sure what that has 2 do with it. I told my friend 2 cut down on milk cuz she was drinking 3 or 4 glasses a day of 2% and I think that will make a big difference in her diet. THANK YOU for the tips!!!!
Research has known since the 1930’s that pasteurized milk does not and can not increase bone density… when you pasteurize milk you completely denature and destroy the enzyme phosphatase… without phosphatase it is impossible to adsorb the calcium present in milk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKxnPfwdWB8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr5pl6lgjJ8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHcyAH0rOPE&NR=1
Question: How much milk should we drink?
Answer: As long as it’s the RIGHT kind of milk… as much as you want… the more the healthier!
Question: Should we stick to skim milk?
Answer: Skim milk has the least health benefits… all the HEALTHY FATS have been removed… in our culture we are paranoid about fat consumption… 60% of our brains are made of fat… every one of our cell membranes are made out of fat… by removing the fats you loss all the healthy fat soluble vitamins A,D,E and K (our culture is greatly lacking) as well as all the healthy omega 3’s.
Side note… if a cow is grass fed it will have a better ratio of omega 3’s to 6’s (more omega 3’s) but if it is grain fed it will have the opposite (more omega 6’s).
The average person in our culture has 20 times the amount of omega 6’s in there diet… we should have a ratio of (1 to 3) not (1 to 20).
Should we drink organic milk?
Answer: We should not only drink organic milk but we should drink grass fed, unprocessed, whole, unpasteurized, unhomogenized milk raw milk. There are so many scientific reasons for this… I can’t list them all hear.
Sorry, I never got to put in my opinion if we should drink milk…
My answer is both yes and no…
No… if the cows are feed pesticide, lavacide, fungicide, herbicide, suicide, generically modified grains, corn and soy or worse other dead cows (that’s what caused mad cow disease).
No…if the cows are given growth hormones and antibiotics (on almost a daily bases).
No… if the milk is homogenized and pasteurized (denaturing all the enzymes, fats and proteins) and killing all of the beneficial bacteria.
No… if the milk is allergic, mucus forming, acid forming, vitamin and mineral depleted, puss filled, blood filled, and put in a plastic container.
Yes… if the cows are organic pasture grass fed like nature intended.
Yes… if the cows are not given growth hormones or antibiotics
Yes… if the milk is whole NOT processed, NOT homogenized, NOT pasteurized, or NOT adulterated in anyway shape or form.
Yes… if the milk is alkaline forming, fulled with vitamins and minerals and bottled in glass.
Furthermore,
Goats milk is closer to humans milk than cows milk.
Goats milk digests in 20 minutes vs 4 hours for cows milk.
Goats milk naturally has small fat globules and therefore the healthy beneficial fats are digested easier than cows milk.
Goats milk has more vitamins and minerals than cows milk.
Goats milk is less allergenic than cows milk. (Even though most people aren’t allergic to raw cows milk)
More people by far in the world drink goats milk compared to cows milk.
Conclusion
Milk naturally is a whole perfect food… a gift of pure LOVE to the body from mother nature. The product man has created out of greed for mass production is… while… lets just say, “other than the best ever”.
Are we meant to drink milk… well cultures all over the world have been for thousands of years… some of the healthiest studied cultures in the world do and have drank(real raw whole milk).
-Isaac
PS. I am a nutritional researcher… email me at the_future_11@hotmail.com if you have any further questions…
Thanks for such clear information, Isaac! We’ve been looking for a goat share close to our home, but it’s been hard to come by so far.
So glad you posted this comment!!! I am a huge fan of raw- unpasterized milk. There is so much research now proving how bad low fat milk is for you. I am a fan of http://www.westonaprice.org This site has fantastic info on raw milk.
How can you say, that milk is: Milk naturally is a whole perfect food… a gift of pure LOVE to the body from mother nature.??
How can you drink this? This is food from other ANIMAL – COW, and cow produce milk only for baby cow.
So tell me, are you COW?
-In milk there are COW hormons, do you need cow hormons?
-In milk (in USA) there are allowed up to 80 different antibiotics…because they feed cows with antibiotics, to stay health. But again, bad for you, because you get imune for dose antibiotics…and also, antibiotic is POISON.
-In milk there is mucus. Mucus is bad for lungs, and for digestive system. Highers the risks for getting cancer or other illnes.
When small cow grows up…what does she drinks?
I can go on and on…so tell me, are you human or cow?..because also cow doesn’t drink milk.
I drink raw as well and feel great! I listen to seans videos and radio shows as well, thats what got me to drink it and I rarely am sick and feel so great!!
5 YEARS AGO I SWITCHED FROM PASTEURIZED UNHEALTHY COWS MILK TO RAW GOATS MILK… WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!! NOT EVEN THE SAME FOOD…
Most people that think that they are allergic to cows milk or have a lactose intolerance… will be able to drink raw cows milk and especially goats milk no problem…
Raw milk naturally contains good bacteria that help to digest the lactose in milk… when you pasteurize the milk you kill the good bacteria and than when you can’t digest the milk you think your lactose intolerant…
THE CHINA STUDY WAS ONLY DONE ON PASTEURIZED UNHEALTHY NOT GRASS FED CRAP MILK… THE RESEARCH ONLY PROVED THAT PASTEURIZED UNHEALTHY NOT GRASS FED CRAP MILK IS BAD FOR US… THE STUDY DOESN’T PROVE THAT GRASS FED RAW COW OR GOATS MILK IS UNHEALTHY FOR US…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKxnPfwdWB8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr5pl6lgjJ8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHcyAH0rOPE&NR=1
-Isaac
PS. I am a nutritional researcher… email me at the_future_11@hotmail.com if you have any futher questions… or if you want to compare research…
Thank you so much for the clear and concise information. I have read a lot about raw milk and would really like to give it a try. Do you have any information about where to buy raw milk? I’m from the States but am living abroad right now and don’t know where to start looking. Thanks again.
Research has known since the 1930’s that pasteurized milk does not and can not increase bone density… when you pasteurize milk you completely denature and destroy the enzyme phosphatase… without phosphatase it is impossible to adsorb the calcium present in milk.
Most people that think that they are allergic to cows milk or have a lactose intolerance… will be able to drink raw cows milk and especially goats milk no problem…
Raw milk naturally contains good bacteria that help to digest the lactose in milk… when you pasteurize the milk you kill the good bacteria and than when you can’t digest the milk you think your lactose intolerant…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKxnPfwdWB8&feature=related
-Isaac
PS. I am a nutritional researcher… email me at the_future_11@hotmail.com if you have any further questions… or want to compare research…
SOY IS NOT A HEALTH FOOD… IF IT IS UNFERMENTED IT IS ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS FOODS TO CONSUME…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9L5MJYfi2A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjZs0DGW1Jk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdFVnJQJCRI&feature=related
Read the book, “The whole story of soy”. (600 Pages of reasons why Soy was never meant to be consumed by humans)
Do some research on how…
Soy was traditionally only used in crop rotation to fix nitrogen for the soil…
How 90% of Soy is now genetically modified…
How Soy damages the thyroid…
How soy is the highest phytoestrogen food…
ONCE AGAIN SOY IS NOT A HEALTH FOOD!!!!!!!
-Isaac
PS. I am a nutritional researcher… email me at the_future_11@hotmail.com if you have any further questions… or want to compare research…
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First of all welcome to Malta. I hope you are enjoying our winter weather, although when it gets so humid, its hard to get warm.
Secondly, the milk debate is so complicated because no two milk products are alike. As you have probably realized our milk in Malta, is full of water compared to Czech milk. So maltese milk is much lower in fats.
Milk on the whole is a high protein drink with lots of healthy fats which are essential for babies need to grow.How good these are for adults are a bone of contention, but I have to agree with you as long as you have milk in moderation it is healty.
Most of all, I beleive it depends on what one is used too. Some people can drink a carton a day ( 1 litre) other don’t.However it should never be a sunstitute for water. What is especially important is that women get their calcium intake from milk especailly in the teens ( and exercise) as this will go a long way in preventing osteoporosis later in life.
If you are really interested in this stuff, the university of Malta is offering lectures to the public this coming month. I have applied for One of the topics and it is going to be nutrition. You can still apply for the course: info.registrar@um.edu.mt
I’m bothered by the comments stating that milk is “unnatural”. If this is the case, I believe it’s safe to say that we as humans are ourselves, completely unnatural. Our bodies are not naturally meant to be clothed, nor are our legs and faces naturally meant to be shaved. Our hands weren’t naturally meant to be able to type comments on our completely unnatural computers about how “unnatural” our consumption of milk is, whereupon it is unnaturally broadcasted across the globe!
A vegan who can use a computer is far more unnatural than my diary-farmer of a father who can’t even use a mouse! Not that I’m judging anyone.
I’m not bias against technology or mankind’s innovative tendancies or veganism, rather, I just support milk!! Dairy farmers have a far more natural occupation than most people out there. I don’t disagree that some large industrial farms go about things all wrong, tainting the name of the product, but small-scale farms are genuinely natural and necessary. I’m just saying, there are far more “unnatural” things found in society than MILK.
Shaina,
No one is saying that milk is unnatural. What they are saying is that humans are not MEANT to be drinking milk and are backing their opinions up with scientific facts, which you are purposely avoiding.
You feel this way, because milk has been a huge part of our lives and I completely understand when you read that it’s actually bad for you, it’s really hard to imagine, but it really is true, whether we like it or not.
Hi Shaina,
You have a right to your opinion and I respect that. I would ask you, though, What is natural about drinking the milk of another species? No other animals on the planet do that. No other animals on the planet continue to drink milk after infancy, either. I’d say it’s a custom we’ve, as humans, formed over time, like shaving our legs… unnecessary (and in milk’s case, sometimes harmfull) but done anyway.
Yes, and I don’t know any other species that actually cooks their food before eating it….so lets start eating our meat raw….since cooking is something like a habit we have formed. I guess you see my sarcasm here…at least I hope you do….
Actually, dogs have nursed kittens and wolf pups if something happened to the mother.
Love you comment Shaina!
Whole milk is the best for you.
woman should drink 2-3 tall glasses a day.
If your bones crack….drink more.
I believe woman need more milk then men.
Woman need even more milk when they are preggers.
Your body’s skin needs fat to breath.
(That’s why you drink Whole Milk. It is good fat your body needs.)
It is very important to drink milk when you are young and old.
People who are scared of fat age faster and get wrinkly..eww
Your bones and joints need fat to keep lubricated.
Your skins needs fat to stay young.
Your pores need fat to breath. If you don’t consume fat those pores will not breath.
Skim, 2% and low fat milk will NOT do the job!!!!!
What a waste…It tastes gross too!
Come on people how is Whole Milk bad for you?
its natural..
I know there are people on here that drink the good old fashioned Whole Milk.
I am posting this for the people out there who think Whole Milk is the devil…And say:
“Ohh I only drink 2% because Whole Milk has fat in it…and I only use “I can’t believe Its Not Butter”
because don’t you know real butter has too much fat?
But its OK to eat processed soy products because its soy and soy is amazing for you.”
You wish you knew what you were talking about!!
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5 YEARS AGO I SWITCHED FROM PASTEURIZED UNHEALTHY COWS MILK TO RAW GOATS MILK… WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!! NOT EVEN THE SAME FOOD…
Most people that think that they are allergic to cows milk or have a lactose intolerance… will be able to drink raw milk (especially goats milk) no problem…
Raw milk naturally contains good bacteria that help to digest the lactose in milk… when you pasteurize the milk you kill the good bacteria and than when you can’t digest the milk you think your lactose intolerant…
-Isaac
PS. I am a nutritional researcher… email me at the_future_11@hotmail.com if you have any further questions… or want to compare research…
Baby´s should always be fed with human milk, not cow´s milk even if it is modified to make it like human milk.
Raw Goat Milk can cause Brucelosis, and it is not esay to cure one You have it.
I drink milk only once in a while, and eat dairy products a little more often. I think moderation is the answer for me.
Last year, I replaced milk in the fridge with almond milk. I don’t care for the oily soy taste and almost all the brands contain a lot of sugar.
We use it for pre/post workout smoothies, lattes, with cereal and as a dairy replacement when cooking.
I do not drink milk in a glass anymore. I also use goat milk from time to time. I’ve replaced other dairy products such as yogurt and kefir with goat/sheep variations. I stick to imported cheeses (to US) made of sheep’s or goat’s milk, such as goat brie or sheep manchego.
The only time I have cow’s milk now is in the occasional Starbucks or cream when traveling for coffee.
Where’s my comment? Bah.
Give me some time girl :) I am reading the comments.
By the way Zuzana your workouts are awesome… I do them all the time… your a great instructor and you do some very challenging workouts (I love it)… I still go to the gym and lift weights… but as far as cardio and workouts to do at home… very challenging!
I would like to see some of the, “juice monkeys” at the gym I go to try and do some of your workouts…haha
Thanks for your work…
-Isaac
Hi Zuzana and Frederick,
My belief is that everyone has an opinion about what is good or bad. Some of us may acquire a little more knowledge on some subjects because we study or read about it. Bottome line (no offense to anyone) you can’t always believe what you read. Michael Pollan’s book touches upon a lot of interesting and disturbing topics, but it is again only his opinion. Years ago I read a book “Fit for Life” based on the concept of eating foods in their natural state (mainly raw) along with proper combining (you can never eat a protein and carb. together) I thought I found the answer to better health by following this book because of the authors’ credentials and scientific studies. Let me tell you that this “new way of eating” landed me in the hospital with an ulcer. What I am trying to say is that whether you decide to drink milk or not should be based on how your body feels about it. If you have been drinking it since the day you were born and it has never affected you, why change it? Because someone says so. My “opinion” is that every individual should invest their time and money in going to an internist and having a complete physical and complete labs/bloodwork. Base any changes in your diet after getting your results. Our bodies are extremely complex machines with mechanics and filters that do their work to eliminate and process what we need and don’t need. No individual is the same and how their body reacts to something doesn’t mean that someone else’s will do the same. My grandfather lived to be 98 years old. His daily diet consisted of red meat, whole milk white bread with lots of butter and endless cups of coffee. He weighed 160 lbs with no high blood pressure or cholesterol. Makes you think hmmm?
All the best!
I totally agree. Listen to your body and pay attention to what it tells you. Same for exercising and for what to eat.
My objections to milk and milk products come mainly from the treatment of the animals. Cows who produce milk are impregnated yearly to keep their milk productions high, only to have their babies taken from them within a day or two of birth. Cows are not unfeeling beings with no sense of self like so many people want to believe. They cry for their young and often attempt to fight for them. And what is their “reward” for this? After just 4 or 5 years (their average lifespan is 15 to 20) their bodies are so worn down from the leaking of calcuim from their bones from constant milk production that they are no longer usefull so they are slaughtered and made into hamburger meat. What happens to their babies? They are shipped off in crates, which they are kept in, in the dark, tied down and not allowed to move for up to 6 weeks. This keeps their “meat” tender. Then they are slaughtered and made into veal.
All of this (and more that I haven’t gone into about their treatment), plus the controversy of how healthy milk is or isn’t for us, is enough for me to not buy milk. I also avoid milk products. Instead I use almond milk when I bake and when I want some sort of “milk” in my coffee, for instance.
Anyway, this subject is such a downer, but I really feel that people should know where their food is coming from and the conditions under which the animals used for it’s “production” are kept. I suggest everyone read Gail Eisnitz book “Slaughterhouse”.
Best to everyone,
Ruth
Thank you, I have learned a lot… I like cow’s milk and I have drank it for so long, but I was never aware of what I was actually drinking… I am so glad there are healthier choises out there.
Than you Zuzana for the workouts.. I looooooooove them.
Gaby Ecuador.
I used to drink a lot of milk, especially after I would get done with cross country in high school. Then, two years ago I got some lab results saying that I had developed lactose intolerance. Since then I’ve been drinking wonderful alternatives such as rice milk, almond milk and soy milk. All of these milks are delicious, full of natural nutrients, are only just a little more expensive than regular milk and low in calories. Even if I had the choice of drinking cow’s milk again I wouldn’t do it. I’ve learned to really really love the other milks!! You should realy give them all a try! :)
I wasn’t sure where to submit a diet question, so I thought I’d do it here on the latest diet post. As with most people I know, I break down and binge now and again, and of course it depends on how other things are going in my life. My question is, what is the best method of getting back on track? If I break my diet and eat a whole pizza in the middle of the day, my inclination is to not eat much the rest of the day because I WAY exceeded my caloric allowance for the day… someone said I should get back on my diet immediately after and keep eating small meals as if the binge didn’t happen… what do you say? What is the best way of getting back on track?
HI Trace,
It happens to me sometimes too, and I either wait until I feel hungry again which might take even 4 hours or I try not to eat after 6pm. If it happens in the night, then there is not much you can do about it. If you slip during the day, then you have still chance to burn the extra calories. I wouldn’t worry about one pizza, because that won’t make such a big difference. I always try harder the next day which is in my opinion enough to get back on track.
Zuzana,
I think you are an awesome person, but I am surprised and a little disappointed you and Frederik are not vegan.
Ketusha
That’s strange, because we are meat eaters and we don’t feel disappointed at all that you are vegan.
That’s the best reply I’ve ever heard. Good on you.
Hi,
First off thanks for all of your efforts on a great website!
Perhaps you have already heard of T. Colin Campbell, his China Study, Plant based nutrition course with Cornell U, 30 years of epidemiology regarding Animal Based Protiens, The Genetic Make up of cows milk and the connections to all of western civilizations health woes along with the recent industrialization of the third world and its similar health problems.
this information has already begun to alter the treatment of auto immune disorders by applying lifestyle changes in the form of plant based nutrition as well as medications.
Keep up the good work!!
Namaste
Great reply!
Vegans preaching from their high horses are making the rest of us (vegans) seem like idiotic cult-like creatures.
What we put in our bodies is one of the most personal choices we make. Judging others for those choices only shows that you think you’re better – it doesn’t, by any stretch of the imagination, prove that you are.
Mihaela
well said :D
Ketusha,
It’s bizarre that so many people like you want to make a freaking religion about their choice of diet. Maybe a bit too much time on your hands, get a hobby, knit or something :)
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Cows Milk is for Babay cows. I try to not eat any milk or milk products unless its Yummy raw milk cheeses and even then its only a llittle every now and then.
I have a book that i Read and was amazed about what was in it, I think its a real Eye opener and i Recomend it to every one.
Its Called “Health Wars” Its by a man called Phillip Day If you can buy it on line At
http://www.credence.org
He has So may books!! he HAs a great recipe book Called Food for Thought, i Got it because im a chef and love trying to find healthy recipes that TAste GReat!
PLease check out this web Site and if you can Get the HEalth Wars Book and Read it. I think that if you Read it and learnore about what is in it, it would be an amazing way to help improve health . HE has a whole Chapter About Milk, MEat,Sugar, And my favorite section is on immunisations! Once you know about what is in them you never want one again unless it was absolutly important. i think that its important to learn as much from both sides of the argument so you can make informed decisions about your food and life.
PLEASE EVERY ONE, Check it out, the books are not expencive and found it so imformitive.A friend introduced it to me and i was just speachless about what i read in there.
This is a subject that im really intrested in. I am trying to make changes in my life that will keep me healthy and strong.
Well Zanna and Fredrick and fellow Body Rock Followers
i hope that you get the chance to read this bood and take from it what you can.
In the mean time, KEEP up the good work, You inspire me to exercise and be healthy (and so does my mum) BE happy and safe!
Love and peace
TESS!!
Hi guys..,
All i can say is that i recently found out i got a lactose intolerance problem so i can’t drink cow milk no more. I find this is so wierd that my body at my age of 32 changing diet preference from regular milk diet to other option. So i figured to try soy milk and no any digestion problem happen. And now i’m back on my regular morning diet of a glass of soy milk instead of regular cow milk everyday. Note: I’m about 5′7″ with 83kg weight, go to work monday to saturday and out running every sunday morning; but drink milk only after running. I feel good so far and thanks to Zuzana & Fred for great workout tips. Thank you.
If you want subjects and ideas on what to write about, I would love it if you could make a post where you give examples on how a typical day looks like when it comes to eating (when and what you eat, before/after workout etc), and how your typical week looks like when it comes to workout? (how many workouts, which days, and maybe links to which types of workout you combine in a week).
I would greatly appreciate it, as I am trying to chance my diet and start working out properly! I have already tried two of your workouts, and I think it’s great that I am able to do them at home. Even though I am not strong enough to to all the exercises and as many reps as you, I’m hoping I’ll get there!=) Keep up the good work!;)
I workout for about 5 days a week and all I do are the daily workouts that I am sharing on this blog. I will make more posts about my diet in more details in the near future. I am sure that you will find a lot of useful tips in the articles about our diet that we have already posted.
Thanks for this guys! I wasn’t expecting a whole article about it.. This was very informative!
I know this blog is about milk but I have a question about fruit. Some may think this is absurd, but a lot of fitness models, etc. don’t eat much fruit. Maybe an apple here and there, but no bananas, etc. ever. Zuzana what are your thoughts on fruit? And is there any fruit you stay away from? I know this may seem like a crazy question to some, but I’ve heard many people in the fitness world rarely include fruit in their diet.
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Hi Jenny,
I would stay away only from the fruit that I don’t like and I can’t think of any right now. I like all the fruit and I eat it a lot. I also don’t really care at what time in the day I eat fruit. I eat it when I have cravings for it. I try not to eat too much at the evening, but I do have an apple when I feel hungry.
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Thank you for great information. I wanted to see if you guys can talk about Genetically Modified Food. This is a big issue in America, where it is not regulated. Other countries have strict regulations, but here it seems like the FDA doesn’t really care about our health. I think this would be an interesting topic to talk about. Thank you in advance.
-Nelya
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I, personally, don’t believe that cow’s milk is beneficial toward humans; it’s not at all similar to human milk, or even sheep or goat milk. There have been a few great studies done recently on sheep’s milk cheese that show it to be very good for us, as far as lowering bad cholesterol, protecting against illnesses and tacking a few more years onto your life.
I usually drink 1 cup skin milk when I mix a protein shake (9 extra grams of protein), but lately I’ve been avoiding milk and supplements. that being said I think all things in moderation, healthy calories are still calories, and will make you gain fat.
thanks for the great website Zuzana
Tania’s comment was the best so far!!!! It all boils down to doing what feels right in your body, and that everyone is different. :) Good common sense
i was a huuuuge milk fan until i found out that milk is not that healthy as i thoght was so i drink soya milk instead, but vanilla flavoured! :)
Well when I was a kid I was a big milk drinker but only with nesquik or cookies such as oreos or chocolate chip. But, has I got older and decided to get in shape I started drinking soy milk. In my opinion soy milk has a better taste than regular milk and has less fat. I never indulge in which i have a huge cold glass everyday I mostly use it to make oatmeal or in a bowl of cereal. What is your take zuzana on soy milk, rice milk and even almond milk?
I don’t drink milk. It’s got too much pus in it.
Sorry, for being so gross but it’s the truth;))
Cheers.
I am a vegan too and am not dis-a-pointed at anyone ;))
I rarely drink milk straight out of the glass but when I do consume milk, it is skim and only around 3/4 cup to put in my morning oatmeal. My son, on the other hand, drinks milk every single day. He is 13 and he just loves it. I was buying whole vitamin d milk until he was around the age of 8 years old when he started gaining some weight and becoming chubby, I switched out to skim milk. He never even noticed!
Don’t know if you have this where you are but I prefer almond milk, tastes much better to me than animal milk. Plus their a superfood! I tried soy also but didn’t like the bitter aftertaste.
(Please approve this Zuzana)
I know Zuzana this isn’t about milk… but as you might have guessed I am as passionate about nutrition/diet as you are about exercise (I am passionate about that as well)…
I think this is very important information for all vegans/vegetarians to be aware of and research!!… Besides we have already kinda covered peoples views about milk at this point…
Maybe this could be an idea for the next topic…
Should we eat meat? If so what kind of meat is best?
What are the differences between traditional grass-fed organic humanely raise meat and modern factory farmed grain-fed meat?
I know this is a sensitive topic (I was a vegan for one year myself) but I think it is one of the most important nutrition/diet topics…
Message for Ketusha (And all other Vegans)
First I must say that I am not trying to be insensitive to your choice… I understand how the vegan path sounds appealing…
I think the vegan diet is a very cleansing diet and for a few years it has many health benefits…
I completely respect your decision to be vegan… I myself was a vegan for one year (until I did some more research)… however, there are some FACTS and MYTHS you must know about the vegan diet…
TRY TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND
VEGAN MYTH #1: Vegans live longer and have more energy and endurance than meat-eaters.
Fact: The Aborigines of Australia, who traditionally eat a diet rich in animal products, are known for their longevity (at least before colonization by Europeans). In his book Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, Dr. Weston Price has numerous photographs of elderly native peoples from around the world. Explorers such as Vilhjalmur Stefansson reported great longevity among the Inuit (again, before colonization). Similarly, the Russians of the Caucasus mountains live to great ages on a diet of fatty meat and whole raw milk products. The Hunzas, also known for their robust health and longevity, eat substantial portions of raw goat’s milk which has a higher saturated fat content than cow’s milk. In contrast, the largely vegetarian Hindus of southern India have the shortest life-spans in the world, partly because of a lack of food, but also because of a distinct lack of animal protein in their diets.
Fact: Dr. Weston Price traveled around the world in the 1920s and 1930s, investigating native diets. Without exception, he found a strong correlation between diets rich in animal fats, robust health and athletic ability. Special foods for Swiss athletes, for example, included bowls of fresh, raw cream. In Africa, Dr. Weston Price discovered that groups whose diets were rich in fatty meats and fish, and organ meats like liver, consistently carried off the prizes in athletic contests, and that meat-eating tribes always dominated tribes whose diets were largely vegetarian.
Fact: MAHATMA GANDHI almost died as a vegan, and on the advice of his doctor drank raw goat’s milk back to health.
VEGAN MYTH #2: Vitamin B12 can be obtained from plant sources.
Fact: There is not real B12 in plant sources… only B12 analogues–they are similar to true B12, but not exactly the same and because of this they are not bio-available. It should be noted here that these B12 analogues can impair absorption of true vitamin B12 in the body due to competitive absorption.
Fact: Some vegetarian authorities claim that B12 is produced by certain fermenting bacteria in the lower intestines. This may be true, but it is in a form unusable by the body. B12 requires intrinsic factor from the stomach for proper absorption in the ileum. Since the bacterial product does not have intrinsic factor bound to it, it cannot be absorbed.
That vitamin B12 can only be obtained from animal foods is one of the strongest arguments against veganism being a “natural” way of human eating. Today, vegans can avoid anemia by taking supplemental vitamins or fortified foods. If those same people had lived just a few decades ago, when these products were unavailable, they would have died. Vegans who do not supplement their diet with vitamin B12 will eventually get anemia (a fatal condition) as well as severe nervous and digestive system damage.
VEGAN MYTH #3: Animal products contain numerous, harmful toxins.
If meat, fish and eggs do indeed generate cancerous “toxins,” it is very strange that prior to the past 100 years or so people had not been dying from cancer and heart disease for the past million years. Hormones, nitrates and pesticides are present in commercially raised animal products (as well as commercially raised fruits, grains and vegetables) and are definitely things to be concerned about. However, one can avoid these chemicals by taking care to consume range-fed, organic meats, eggs and dairy products which do not contain harmful, man-made toxins.
It is often claimed by vegans that meat is harmful to our bodies because ammonia is released from the breakdown of its proteins. Although it is true that ammonia production does result from meat digestion, our bodies quickly convert this substance into harmless urea. The alleged toxicity of meat is greatly exaggerated by vegans.
VEGAN MYTH #4: The human body is not designed for meat consumption.
Fact: First and foremost is our stomach’s production of hydrochloric acid, something not found in herbivores. HCL activates protein-splitting enzymes. Further, the human pancreas manufactures a full range of digestive enzymes to handle a wide variety of foods, both animal and vegetable.
Fact: While humans may have longer intestines than animal carnivores, they are not as long as herbivores; nor do we possess multiple stomachs like many herbivores, nor do we chew cud.
Our physiology definitely indicates a mixed feeder, or an omnivore.
VEGAN MYTH #5: Soy products are adequate substitutes for meat and dairy products.
There is little doubt that the billion-dollar soy industry has profited immensely from the anti-cholesterol, anti-meat gospel of current nutritional thought. Whereas, not so long ago, soy was an Asian food primarily used as a condiment, now a variety of processed soy products proliferate in the North American market. While the traditionally fermented soy foods of miso, tamari, tempeh and natto are definitely healthful in measured amounts, the genetically modified hyper-processed soy “foods” that most vegetarians consume are not.
Fact: Non-fermented soybeans and foods made with them are high in phytic acid, an anti-nutrient that binds to minerals in the digestive tract and carries them out of the body. Vegetarians are known for their tendencies to mineral deficiencies, especially of zinc and it is the high phytate content of grain and legume based diets that is to blame. Though several traditional food preparation techniques such as soaking, sprouting, and fermenting can significantly reduce the phytate content of grains and legumes, such methods are not commonly known about or used by modern peoples, including vegetarians. This places them (and others who eat a diet rich in whole grains) at a greater risk for mineral deficiencies.
Fact: Processed soy foods are also rich in trypsin inhibitors, which hinder protein digestion. Textured vegetable protein (TVP), soy “milk” and soy protein powders, popular vegetarian meat and milk substitutes, are entirely fragmented foods made by treating soybeans with high heat and various alkaline washes to extract the beans’ fat content or to neutralize their potent enzyme inhibitors. These practices completely denature the beans’ protein content, rendering it very hard to digest. MSG, a neurotoxin, is routinely added to TVP to make it taste like the various foods it imitates.
Fact: On a purely nutritional level, soybeans, like all legumes, are deficient in cysteine and methionine, vital sulphur-containing amino acids, as well as tryptophan, another essential amino acid. Furthermore, soybeans contain no vitamins A or D, required by the body to assimilate and utilize the beans’ proteins. It is probably for this reason that Asian cultures that do consume soybeans usually combine them with fish or fish broths (abundant in fat-soluble vitamins) or other fatty foods.
Fact: Parents who feed their children soy-based formula should be aware of its extremely high phytoestrogen content. Some scientists have estimated a child being fed soy formula is ingesting the hormonal equivalent of five birth control pills a day. Such a high intake could have disastrous results.
Though research is still ongoing, some recent studies have indicated that soy’s phytoestrogens could be causative factors in some forms of breast cancer, penile birth defects, and infantile leukemia. Regardless, soy’s phytoestrogens, or isoflavones, have been definitely shown to depress thyroid function and to cause infertility in every animal species studied so far. Clearly, modern soy products an not healthy foods for vegetarians, vegans, or anyone else, yet these are the very ones that are most consumed.
VEGAN MYTH #6: The body’s needs for vitamin A can be entirely obtained from plant foods.
True vitamin A or retinol and its associated esters is only found in animal fats and organs like liver. Plants do contain beta-carotene, a substance that the body can convert into vitamin A if certain conditions are present (see below). Beta-carotene, however, is not vitamin A. It is typical for vegans and vegetarians (as well as most popular nutrition writers) to say that plant foods like carrots and spinach contain vitamin A and that beta-carotene is just as good as vitamin A. These things are not true even though beta-carotene is an important nutritional factor for humans.
Fact: The conversion from carotene to vitamin A in the intestines can only take place in the presence of bile salts. This means that fat must be eaten with the carotenes to stimulate bile secretion.
Fact: The body’s conversion from carotene to vitamin A is not very efficient: it takes roughly 6 units of carotene to make one unit of vitamin A. What this means is that a sweet potato (containing about 25,000 units of beta-carotene) will only convert into about 4,000 units of vitamin A (assuming you ate it with fat, are not diabetic, are not an infant, and do not have a thyroid or gall bladder problem).
Fact: Vitamin A is all-important in our diets, for it enables the body to use proteins and minerals, insures proper vision, enhances the immune system, enables reproduction, and fights infections.
VEGAN MYTH #7: Meat-eating causes osteoporosis, kidney disease, heart disease, and cancer.
Fact: All of the diseases mentioned are primarily 20th century occurrences, yet people have been eating meat and animal fat for many thousands of years. Further, as Dr. Price’s research showed, there were/are several native peoples around the world (the Innuit, Maasai, Swiss, etc.) whose traditional diets were/are very rich in animal products, but who nevertheless did/do not suffer from the above-mentioned maladies.
Fact: Dr. George Mann’s independent studies of the Maasai done many years after Dr. Price, confirmed the fact that the Maasai, despite being almost exclusive meat eaters, nevertheless, had little to no incidence of heart disease, or other chronic ailments. This proves that other factors besides animal foods are at work in causing these diseases.
Osteoporosis
Dr. Herta Spencer’s research on protein intake and bone loss clearly showed that protein consumption in the form of real meat has no impact on bone density. Studies that supposedly proved that excessive protein consumption equaled more bone loss were not done with real meat but with fractionated protein powders and isolated amino acids. Recent studies have also shown that increased animal protein intake contributes to stronger bone density in men and women. Some recent studies on vegan and vegetarian diets, however, have shown them to predispose women to osteoporosis.
Heart Disease
The belief that animal protein contributes to heart disease is a popular one that has no foundation in nutritional science. Outside of questionable studies, there is little data to support the idea that meat-eating leads to heart disease. For example, the French have one of the highest per capita consumption of meat, yet have low rates of heart disease. In Greece, meat consumption is higher than average but rates of heart disease are low there as well. Finally, in Spain, an increase in meat eating (in conjunction with a reduction in sugar and high carbohydrate intake) led to a decrease in heart disease.
Cancer
The belief that meat, in particular red meat, contributes to cancer is, like heart disease, a popular idea that is not supported by the facts. Although it is true that some studies have shown a connection between meat eating and some types of cancer, its important to look at the studies carefully to determine what kind of meat is being discussed, as well as the preparation methods used. Since we only have one word for “meat” in English, it is often difficult to know which “meat” is under discussion in a study unless the authors of the study specifically say so.
The study which began the meat=cancer theory was done by Dr. Ernst Wynder in the 1970s. Wynder claimed that there was a direct, causal connection between animal fat intake and incidence of colon cancer. Actually, his data on “animal fats” were really on vegetable fats. In other words, the meat=cancer theory is based on a phony study.
If one looks closely at the research, however, one quickly sees that it is processed meats like cold cuts and sausages that are usually implicated in cancer causation and not real grass-fed meat. Furthermore, cooking methods seem to play a part in whether or not a meat becomes carcinogenic. In other words, it is the added chemicals to the meat and the chosen cooking method that are at fault and not the meat itself.
Kidney Disease
Vegans will also typically claim that animal protein causes overly acidic conditions in the blood, resulting in calcium leaching from the bones and, hence, a greater tendency to form kidney stones. This opinion is false, however. Theoretically, the sulphur and phosphorous in meat can form an acid when placed in water, but that does not mean that is what happens in the body. Actually, meat contains complete proteins and vitamin D (if the skin and fat are eaten), both of which help maintain pH balance in the bloodstream. Furthermore, if one eats a diet that includes enough magnesium and vitamin B6, and restricts refined sugars, one has little to fear from kidney stones, whether one eats meat or not. Animal foods like beef, fish, and lamb are good sources of magnesium and B6 as any food/nutrient table will show.
Conclusion
The mainstream health and vegetarian media have done such an effective job of “beef bashing,” that most people think there is nothing healthful about meat, especially red meat. In reality, however, animal flesh foods like beef are excellent sources of a variety of nutrients as any food/nutrient table will show. Nutrients like vitamins A, D, several of the B-complex, essential fatty acids (in small amounts), magnesium, zinc, phosphorous, potassium, iron, taurine, and selenium are abundant in beef, lamb, pork, fish and shellfish, and poultry. Nutritional factors like coenzyme Q10, carnitine, and alpha-lipoic acid are also present. Some of these nutrients are only found in animal foods–plants do not supply them.
The fact that no human society is entirely vegan, and those that are almost entirely vegan suffer from debilitated conditions of health, seems unequivocally to prove that a long term plant diet must be supplemented with at least a minimum amount of meat or raw milk to sustain health. Humans are meat-eaters and always have been. Humans are also vegetable eaters and always have been, but plant foods must be supplemented by an ample amount of animal meat or at the very least raw milk to maintain optimal health.
-Isaac
PS. I am a nutritional researcher… email me at the_future_11@hotmail.com if you have any further questions… or want to compare research…
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Osteoporosis
Dr. Herta Spencer’s research on protein intake and bone loss clearly showed that protein consumption in the form of real meat has no impact on bone density. Studies that supposedly proved that excessive protein consumption equaled more bone loss were not done with real meat but with fractionated protein powders and isolated amino acids. Recent studies have also shown that increased animal protein intake contributes to stronger bone density in men and women. Some recent studies on vegan and vegetarian diets, however, have shown them to predispose women to osteoporosis.
Heart Disease
The belief that animal protein contributes to heart disease is a popular one that has no foundation in nutritional science. Outside of questionable studies, there is little data to support the idea that meat-eating leads to heart disease. For example, the French have one of the highest per capita consumption of meat, yet have low rates of heart disease. In Greece, meat consumption is higher than average but rates of heart disease are low there as well. Finally, in Spain, an increase in meat eating (in conjunction with a reduction in sugar and high carbohydrate intake) led to a decrease in heart disease.
Cancer
The belief that meat, in particular red meat, contributes to cancer is, like heart disease, a popular idea that is not supported by the facts. Although it is true that some studies have shown a connection between meat eating and some types of cancer, its important to look at the studies carefully to determine what kind of meat is being discussed, as well as the preparation methods used. Since we only have one word for “meat” in English, it is often difficult to know which “meat” is under discussion in a study unless the authors of the study specifically say so.
The study which began the meat=cancer theory was done by Dr. Ernst Wynder in the 1970s. Wynder claimed that there was a direct, causal connection between animal fat intake and incidence of colon cancer. Actually, his data on “animal fats” were really on vegetable fats. In other words, the meat=cancer theory is based on a phony study.
If one looks closely at the research, however, one quickly sees that it is processed meats like cold cuts and sausages that are usually implicated in cancer causation and not real grass-fed meat. Furthermore, cooking methods seem to play a part in whether or not a meat becomes carcinogenic. In other words, it is the added chemicals to the meat and the chosen cooking method that are at fault and not the meat itself.
Kidney Disease
Vegans will also typically claim that animal protein causes overly acidic conditions in the blood, resulting in calcium leaching from the bones and, hence, a greater tendency to form kidney stones. This opinion is false, however. Theoretically, the sulphur and phosphorous in meat can form an acid when placed in water, but that does not mean that is what happens in the body. Actually, meat contains complete proteins and vitamin D (if the skin and fat are eaten), both of which help maintain pH balance in the bloodstream. Furthermore, if one eats a diet that includes enough magnesium and vitamin B6, and restricts refined sugars, one has little to fear from kidney stones, whether one eats meat or not. Animal foods like beef, fish, and lamb are good sources of magnesium and B6 as any food/nutrient table will show.
Eating meat does weaken the bones in time. The reason? Meat is highly acidic food. Your body will try to neutralize the PH. The bones weaken because the body uses calcium to neutralize the blood PH. Why do you think doctors recommend people to consume calcium to strengthen their bones?!
Your kidney can process only about 100 grams of animal protein a day, anything more than that will stress your kidney and have the potential to have kidney disease.
High animal protein consumption shortens your life. There is already scientific lecture stating a low protein diet with reduce caloric intake will increase life span.
Animal protein is linked to heart disease. This is especially true when you are consuming protein that has been cooked in high temperature. The fats in the meat turns into cancer causing chemicals if cooked over 100 F.
If you don’t believe I suggest you do some research especially with the cancer institute.
If you can’t cure yourself from cancer it is known in Budwig diet that you have to stop eating meat completely. Budwig diet was developed by a German biochemist. Modern medicine try to treat illness with medicine which doesn’t even treat the root cause of the problem. Father of medicine stated, lLet be your mediine. Let medicine be your food.
Hippocrates used food, sunlight and other natural ways to treat illness.
I don’t know how the heck you can say meat with the skin can balance the PH of the blood. It does not your bones do. Best way to neutralize your blood PH is calcium, and milk is a poor choice. Broccoli is the best source of calcium.
Please if you’re going to say something at least do some research.
• The protein stored in the blood causes a reduced micro-circulation and contributes to thrombosis.
• The protein stored on the basal membranes of capillaries and on the walls of arteries causes arteriosclerosis.
• The protein stored inside the heart muscle causes cardiomuscular disease and heart attacks.
• The protein stored on the filters of the kidneys causes kidney disease.
• The protein stored in the liver blocks the only exit of the LDL cholesterol from the blood stream. Cholesterol that can’t leave the bloodstream through the liver contributes to arteriosclerosis.
• The protein stored on the membranes of body cells causes diabetes.
• The protein stored in the breasts of women contributes to the development of breast cancer.
• The protein stored in the prostate contributes to prostate cancer. ”
source:
http://www.biomedx.com/zeta/page6.html
You bring up many good points, Isaac Neubert. But one thing you have not addressed: since becoming a vegetarian I feel much, much better. I feel healthier, have more energy, sleep less, and weigh less. I even can think more clearly. Plus, at the end of the day, I feel good about what I have ate.
Here is where you are thinking that when I became a vegetarian I paid closer attention to what I was consuming, and that is why I feel better, not just because I cut out meat.
Really, at the end of the day, it is not so much about what scientific research indicates about how you should feel as much as it is how you do feel. The fact is, my doctor says I am healthy, and more importantly I feel healthy–this is what is important to me. Yes, in the 1900’s the Inuit people who lived off of meat were remarkably healthy individuals, but that is not to say that there are no healthy vegans or vegetarians in the world. Really it comes down to a personal choice, I think.
I hope I am not coming off as bitter, I just wanted to put my two cents in. Also, since you are a nutritionist I have a question for you. What do you think about soy as a part of your diet WHEN you have been eating it since you were a teenager? I have heard that soy is bad for people when they all of a sudden start eating it when they are older, and that it isn’t bad when it has been a mainstay in your diet for a long time. I am interested in what you have to say.
SOY MILK and SOY PRODUCTS are not even remotely healthy foods!!
Fact: 90% of Soy is GMO (Genetically Modified)and it also has one of the highest percentages contamination by pesticides of any of the foods we eat.
Fact: Non-fermented soybeans and foods made with them are high in phytic acid, an anti-nutrient that binds to minerals in the digestive tract and carries them out of the body.
Fact: MSG, a neurotoxin, is routinely added to soy products to make it taste like the various foods it imitates.
Fact: Parents who feed their children soy-based formula should be aware of its extremely high phytoestrogen content. Some scientists have estimated a child being fed soy formula is ingesting the hormonal equivalent of five birth control pills a day.
Fact: Soy phytoestrogens, or isoflavones, have been definitely shown to depress thyroid function and to cause infertility in every animal species studied so far.
Not so long ago, soy was an Asian food primarily used as a condiment, now a variety of processed soy products proliferate in the North American market. While the traditionally fermented soy foods of miso, tamari, tempeh and natto are definitely healthful in measured amounts, the genetically modified hyper-processed soy “foods” that most people today consume are not.
Clearly, modern soy products an not healthy foods for vegetarians, vegans, or anyone else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9L5MJYfi2A
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-Isaac
PS. I am a nutritional researcher… email me at the_future_11@hotmail.com if you have any further questions… or want to compare research…
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Hey All,
Nice article. I have to say I 30 years old and I no longer even drink milk, and haven’t for 6 or 7 years. However, I do use it while cooking, baking and the occasional coffee drink. I do still eat some dairy, cheese and ice cream, however not often. I still get plenty of calcium from other sources and my doctors and myself consider me a very health and fit person(thanks to awesome workouts here).
Yosef
My friend you is a nutritionist told me that if you are looking to gain weight from muscle and you are already a healthy eater, then you should add 3 glasses of skim milk to your diet because it is full of proteins and does not have the fats for 2% or whole milk. I am not saying that this is what I believe or this is what I am doing, I am just telling you some of the info I have heard about milk. I would really like for you to maybe do an article on foods that you should be eating to lose weight and gain muscle mass. I know that they say these two things cannot be done at the same time, but I disagree. The more lean muscle you build, the more fat your body burns. So If you are working on your lean muscle, the fat will come off too. Maybe not the way it would come off if you are just doing cardio and cutting down on your calories, but working on your lean muscles means that you don’t have to lose any muscle while still burning fat. If you are not eating healthy though, then you are basically contradicting those actions. Anyway, if you are not eating a healthy diet and then you start to eat healthier and work on your muscle, I believe the fat will come off as well. I have been heavy weight training for the past year now and I have seen a huge difference in my body, and that is without changing my diet much. I do love my desserts though and especially my chocolate (I have one small piece of chocolate every morning), so I know that I will never been the leanest person in the world, but for now I am a size 0 in most stores and a size 4 in designer clothes. When I say heavy weight training, I am not talking bodybuilder style, bc to do that my diet would really have to change a lot! But I am definitely a lot more toned, my muscles have grown to a nice size, yet still feminine, and my body fat percentage has definitely decreased. Also, could you mention the calorie intake of people, or how to calculate it. So should a person focus on losing weight first and then focus on gaining some muscle mass, or can it be done together?
I didn’t mean my friend you…I had revised my previous sentence and I guess I forgot a word in there..oopsies!
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I actually stopped drinking all cow’s milk a while ago and I try to avoid cheese as well. Cow’s milk is the most common food allergy in infants. And it could be just as similar as a rash or runny nose, but alot of times switching milk will improve the infants health. It just makes me wonder what is going on with cow’s milk that it can cause so many problems. Cow’s milk orginally was probably just fine, but it has become so processed.
I personally drink rice, soy, or almond milk. I make my own almond milk. Just blend up some almonds in water and filter the pulp out. It doesn’t taste that great but you could add some vanilla flavoring, but it tastes just fine in oatmeal.
wow, too much information on this milk stuff. i tried rice milk and i didn’t finish the whole thing after a while it tasted nasty, soy milk i can pass it, almond milk i made some like how Nick said, and it wasn’t that bad at all; however it did rush me to the bathroom awhile after ;/,so idk i still have cows milk ;p
Thats cool that you tried it. This winter Ive been making almond hot chocolate. You put the almond milk in a kettle, add some cocco, heat it up till it is as warm as you like it, then add stevia and vanilla flavoring. Yum!
Sorry but I’m lactose in tollerent
drink Raw if you are lactose in tolerant
Quote by: Michael K
Please if you’re going to say something at least do some research.
• The protein stored in the blood causes a reduced micro-circulation and contributes to thrombosis.
• The protein stored on the basal membranes of capillaries and on the walls of arteries causes arteriosclerosis.
• The protein stored inside the heart muscle causes cardiomuscular disease and heart attacks.
• The protein stored on the filters of the kidneys causes kidney disease.
• The protein stored in the liver blocks the only exit of the LDL cholesterol from the blood stream. Cholesterol that can’t leave the bloodstream through the liver contributes to arteriosclerosis.
• The protein stored on the membranes of body cells causes diabetes.
• The protein stored in the breasts of women contributes to the development of breast cancer.
• The protein stored in the prostate contributes to prostate cancer. ”
Isaac’s replay…
If this, “Scientific” nonsense information where true (which it isn’t) please explain a few historical facts to me Michael k…
In the early 1900’s Vilhjalmur Stefansson, who studied anthropology at the graduate school of Harvard University, documented the fact that the traditional Inuit people of Alaska and Canada lived on a diet of about 90% raw meat and fish, often going 6–9 months a year on nothing but raw meat and fish. Field physicians in the arctic noted that the Inuit were a remarkably healthy people. They did not develop the chronic diseases we now view as part of being human: tooth decay, overweight, heart attacks, appendicitis, constipation, diabetes and cancer. One of these physicians was Captain George B. Leavitt. He actively searched for cancer among the traditionally-living Inuit from 1885 to 1907. Along with his staff, he performed 50,000 examinations a year for the first 15 years, and 25,000 a year thereafter. He did not find one case of cancer in his 49 year career amount the Inuit of Alaska and Canada. At the same time, he was regularly diagnosing cancers among the crews of whaling ships and other Westernized populations. By the 1970’s after the Inuit had began consuming a modern diet, breast cancer had become a frequent form of malignancy.
According to your PH theory and protien theory if the Inuit lived on a diet of about 90% raw meat and fish (meat is acidic and high protein) shouldn’t the Inuit people have ALL been extremely acidic with osteoporosis and devastating diseases… lucky for them your theory is WRONG and they thrived with tremendous health (not one case of cancer was found in 49 years) and they had strong bones… hum interesting? Better wait for the next, “scientific theory”.
In the 1930’s a Harvard-trained dentist and nutritionist named Dr. Weston A Price traveled to five continents to observe primitive people, their diet, and the state of their health. He traveled to the remote valleys of Switzerland and to the rugged Outer Hebrides islands. He lived with the Inuit of Alaska and with various Indian tribes in Peru. Dr. Price recorded the lives of the Torres Strait islanders of Melanesia, the Polynesians, the Australian Aborigines, the Maori of New Zealand and the various tribes’ people in east and central Africa. In his book, “Nutrition and Physical Degeneration” Dr. Price wrote about the absolutely amazing endurance, stamina, physical strength, and natural beauty of all of the primitive people he lived and studied. Furthermore, he not only wrote about how they did not suffer from obesity, heart disease, cancer, but also documented that they had less than 1% tooth decay with naturally straight teeth.
Summary of Dr. Price findings
- Grass-fed animal products (Meat, raw dairy and eggs) made up a significant portion of ALL the primitive cultures.
- NO VEGAN cultures where found.
- The primitive diet was made up of 30-40% protein, 20-30% carbohydrates and 40%-50% fat. By comparison, the modern diet in the United States comprises roughly 15% protein, 50% carbohydrates and 35% fat.
- The primitive people obtained their carbohydrates from fruits and vegetables, not from refined grains.
- The majority of the fat in the primitive diet came from healthy omega 3 and saturated fat from grass-fed animals. Not from hydrogenated vegetable oils or trans fats.
Summary of Research
Isaac: Based on facts found from unbiased (non-funded) research on REAL cultures through REAL life applied first hand study over long periods of time.
Michael K: Based on, “scientific” theories about ph balance and how protein works in the body from, “scientific research” that is constantly changing and conflicting ever few weeks depending on who is funding the, “new scientific study” that week…
Assigned Reading Homework for Michael K:
- Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston A. Price
- Nourishing Traditions Sally Fallon and Mary Enig
- The Maker’s Diet by Jordan Rubin
- The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith
- The Untold Story of Milk by Ron Schmid
- Traditional Foods Are Your Best Medicine by Ron Schmid
- The No-Grain Diet by Joseph Mercola
-Isaac
PS. I am a nutritional researcher… email me at the_future_11@hotmail.com if you have any further questions… or want to compare research…
I’m just saying I can’t drink milk or I will throw up and get this feeling like I have acid reflex and heart burn mixed together in my lungs.
Dear Katharine…
First of all I must say that I think it is wonderful that you feel much healthier, have more energy, sleep less, and weigh less since switching to a vegetarian diet! Like I said before I was a vegan for a year so I know how you feel… the vegetarian diet is a very cleansing diet and without a doubt has many short term health benefits. For example, if someone came to me with a serious illness I would them on a strict vegan diet with lots of fresh vegetable and kumut grass juice.
Furthermore, since 99% of the animal products being sold today are skeleton variations of what real healthy animal food once was… it makes logical sense that you would feel better after removing them from your diet. You might even feel better for 20+ years. However, unless you find some very high quality supplements… it is my opinion that eventually you will run into nutritional deficiencies.
If you decide to stay vegetarian I suggest that you…
Supplement on and off with a good (food sourced) iron supplement called, “blood builder” from a company called Mega Food. Other high quality whole food vitamin companies include Garden of Life and New Chapter.
http://megafood.com/products/vitamin-formulas/blood-builder/
http://www.gardenoflife.com/ProductsforLife/THEVITAMINCODE/TargetedNutrientFormulas/RAWIron/tabid/1643/Default.aspx
I would look into getting a high quality (whole food) B12 supplement as well…
http://megafood.com/products/vitamin-formulas/balanced-b-12/
http://www.gardenoflife.com/ProductsforLife/THEVITAMINCODE/TargetedNutrientFormulas/RAWB12/tabid/1644/Default.aspx
I would look into getting a high quality whole food protein powder (not to take every day but here and there)
http://www.gardenoflife.com/ProductsforLife/SUPPLEMENTS/FoundationalNutrition/RAWProtein/tabid/1894/Default.aspx
http://www.gardenoflife.com/ProductsforLife/SUPPLEMENTS/FoundationalNutrition/Goatein/tabid/652/Default.aspx
Also try to get some grass-fed organic fresh raw goats milk at least every couple of weeks. You don’t need a lot of animal products to be healthy long term (but you do need some).
If you ever do decide to go back to animal products you might find that you feel just as amazing if not more amazing eating organic grass-fed pasture raised raw or minimal cooked meat. I am not saying we have to be like the Inuit in order to be healthy… it is all about balance and common sense… however, it’s always good to keep an open mind…
After all, “the mind is like a parashoot, it works better when it’s open”.
My opinion on Soy? I highly suggest you get the book, “The Whole Story of Soy”.
Or at least watch these videos…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9L5MJYfi2A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjZs0DGW1Jk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdFVnJQJCRI&feature=related
Good luck on your journey! I wise you truly the best!
Isaac
PS. I am a nutritional researcher… email me at the_future_11@hotmail.com if you have any further questions… or want to compare research…
I drink Raw whole milk. It is very good for you, it has living enzymes in it that pasteurized homogenized milk does not have because those enzymes and good bacteria have been killed when heated up. Its pretty pricey and can be hard to find, you have to go to whole foods stores or order it online. But I highly recommend it and whole milk has really good fat in it that your body will thrive off. Check out http://www.Organicpastures.com They will explain why it is so beneficial to your body and if you are lactose and tolerant guess what you can drink this with no problems because of the living enzymes!
I have started to find in my late 20s now that milk does not like me! I react to dairy now when I never have before.
As a teenager I was a lazy vegetarian, meaning that I stopped eating meat and ate a lot more cereal! I also drank milk a LOT so I find it really strange that now my body is choosing to reject it.
All my favourite foods ar dairy based so it has been good for me in a way to cut out a lot of foods I shouldnt be eating and challenge me to try soy milk etc.
I am waiting to see if I can see the effects form removing the milk and notice a reduction in the tummy bloating I was suffering from.